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Yeah, exactly.

My experiences were around looking for a quality ORM, job scheduler, and web framework - things like korma and ring exist - but they lack a large amount of features compared to equivalents found in /most other/ languages.

I came to the conclusion that Clojure is an acceptable way to call Java SDKs if you want a bit higher Java velocity AND Lisp fits your brain already, but I'd rather pick up Scala or Groovy instead for that purpose.

Libs in pure clojure, for which I tried dozens, were usually incomplete and error-prone even if they were community favorites, which I attribute in part to the fact that it's a small circle of developers using it, and the language is still newish.



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