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Twitter bot is tracking dictators' flights in and out of Geneva (theverge.com)
195 points by jonbaer on Oct 13, 2016 | hide | past | favorite | 52 comments


Apropos of this I just heard on the radio about the Kleptocracy Asset Recovery initiative[1] which tries to recover "misappropriated" funds from corrupt officials who primarily launder money by buying real estate in the US through off shore shell companies.

[1]http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2016/10/13/497706638/w...


And now I wonder if bitcoin like moneys have a real advantage against this..


There are advantages to arms length transactions, and ownership that is determined by possession as much as records held somewhere. It's nice to be able to escape your country with some of the wealth your family has built up when a dictator takes over. Or maybe, it is only necessary to shelter that wealth for a short time during a period of relative political insanity.

Of course those same abilities enable organized crime, and the ability of dictators to destroy their own countries, then live decadent lives in a country that wasn't ruined by people like themselves.


Sounds similar to "right to be forgotten" in web index.


Any links / which radio, which country, who's doing this? V interesting


They specifically called out Malaysia and Equatorial Guinea in the NPR story, but I'm sure there are many other countries involved, too.

http://www.fcpablog.com/blog/tag/kleptocracy-asset-recovery-...


The list of planes can be found on GitHub[1].

It seems to be heavily focused on governments residing in the MENA region and Central Asia.

Notably missing is Ethiopia[2], but it seems the repo is open to pull-requests.

[1] https://github.com/lefranz/geneva-dictators/blob/master/arag...

[2] https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/12/ethiop...


"Who's a dictator? We're now exclusively following jets used by "authoritarian regimes" according to the 2015 Democracy Index by @TheEIU"

That's what the list is based on according to their Twitter.


And Ethiopia is on the Index[0] as "Authoritarian", so should be included if the information can be found.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index


Reminds me of the scene from Wall Street where Charlie Sheen asks the airport worker where a private jet is heading, and then deduces which company is being targeted for an acquisition.


When Boeing merged with McDonnell Douglass, executives would fly to two unrelated cities and then drive to the actual meeting place for negotiations, specifically to foil this sort of surveillance.


I remember reading how people would keep track of if/where a CEO of larger company would fly prior to a quarterly report. Apparently there was a strong correlation between short trips to holiday places and good earnings reports.



I'm curious how they are ascertaining whether a dictator is on board since I don't think a flight manifest would be available, so while tracking the tail numbers lets you know what country and might not always tell you who is on board.

This brings up an interesting question though, if it is not a dictator but rather a rank file U.N envoy why are they traveling by private jet?

Anyway I think this project is neat and worthwhile. There was someone a while back that was doing something similar, albeit without a twitter bot, that was tracking the CIA's rendition flights using similar tactics.


They cannot know if the dictator is on board, of course, but it could just be one of their lackeys flying to Geneva with a suitcase full of cash to deposit in a Swiss bank account.


Agreed, that's kind of what I was getting at is that it raises questions either way.


So, according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index (source for this bot), China is an authoritarian regime and Xi Jinping is a "dictator"?

https://www.facebook.com/zuck/posts/10102387539239021


I don't know what is your personal assessment of an authoritarian state but in my book, a country with a single party (or where the single party decides who can be elected or not), and where the head of state is or was the head of the single party is an authoritarian regime.


I'm not saying that it isn't authoritarian (in my Libertarian book most western countries including the US and most of the supranational EU organisms are authoritarian to some degree)...

I'm saying that "authoritarian" doesn't equal "dictatorship".


> I'm saying that "authoritarian" doesn't equal "dictatorship".

You have a point here. Note - that the index mentions China as an "Authoritarian" regime.


Usually authoritarian - Monarchy = dictatorship

Maybe not Iran (Weird partial democracy with clerics ultimately in charge)


What am I missing here? Yes, China is considered Authoritarian because they are a one-party-state...


Then Russia is a democracy. Agree? Because, you know, there are many more parties than in the US.

Oh wait, they say Russia is a dictatorship. Oh yeah, in fact in Russia you have international observers during elections, in the US not. In Russia you have 4 parties in the Duma, in the US just two. In Russia you have a pletora of parties in the elections, in the US just two.

I am seriously angry they didn't add the biggest dictatorship in the world, the American Empire!


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> What do you think would happen in either of those countries if there were demonstrations like the ones that have been going on in the US (e.g. because of police brutality and greedy banks)?

Well, before the world famous show called 'The War on Terror' premiered post-9/11, there were a series of violent clashes between dissidents in the West and Globalist forces.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_Raid_on_Armando_Diaz

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Seattle_WTO_protests

Thankfully, the Empire's Jihadists made a 'timely' decision to turn on and bite the hand that fed them shoulder fired missiles, and the Western voices that were raised against Globalism before 9/11 were no more. (Interestingly enough, if one speculates that the terror events in this period are false flag state terrorism, there is a straight line between the application of violence and intended consequences in the target, per "old school" terrorism.)

> What do you think would happen in either of those countries if there were demonstrations like the ones that have been going on in the US (e.g. because of police brutality and greedy banks)?

Apples and oranges.

Every state will react forcefully and violently when its power basis, or vulnerabilities, are challenged. The specimens that you are referencing have not yet advanced to the level of Western states and still rely on fairly traditional means of maintaining their grip on power. Further, in many of these nations, the general urban population is far more politically literate than their Western counterparts.


InfoWars is leaking.


What is not leaking is an informed contribution, in your reply, to the conversation.

(If you are insinuating that my views are formed by InfoWars.com, permit me to disabuse you of entertaining such thoughts regarding my readings and reflections.)


> Then Russia is a democracy. Agree? Because, you know, there are many more parties than in the US.

It is important to look at what the phrase "1-party state" means. By its literal definition, you are right. But generally, it may not be used in a literal sense and one has to be open to it. In this case, it meant that side effects bought from a 1 party state such as issues with civil rights etc. This is the reason you have an index to measure it. It brings together different facets and creates a score.


After looking at your comment history, this might be the first time that I've seen the "web brigades" (Веб-бригады) at work on a site I frequent. I'm not sure how to feel about that. :|

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_brigades

or

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B5%D0%B1-%D0%B1%D1%8...

(Though I do find it poetic that the Russian language page about the web brigades is proposed for deletion.)


I'd consider Russia as being accurately described in that list. Putin has been in power..how long now? And yes I agree with your sentiments on the US as well.

The thing about the US is that there isn't an apparent law forbidding the forming of 3rd+ parties like there is in other countries.


> In Russia you have a pletora of parties in the elections, in the US just two.

Nit: in the US, there are dozens of parties. Most don't get the votes to win, but they exist: Greens, Independent, Libertarian, etc. etc. Bernie Sanders was of neither party.


Most of those parties don't get a platform, which is a lot of the reason they don't get votes. The Republicans and Democrats control the debates, how to register as a candidate, etc and the media has failed by perpetuating the "two party system" myth.


We do have a few elected Independents, not many though.


You're mixing two things, "empire" (i.e., whether a country is being a dick to other countries and people), and "dictatorship" (whether it is being a dick to its own people).


It's not like having more parties makes you automatically a democracy. Even North Korea has 4 parties. But having one is a clear no go. Always. There is not even anything to discuss or to whitewash. Like in NK or Russia.


And who is the dictator in that "American Empire" dictatorship?


Names and faces are unknown, but their instruments of directing and managing the "empire" are becoming more visible by each passing day. 2016 was a crazy year but there is that silver lining.

[p.s. edit]:

   Undoing Democracy:
   Neoliberalism's Remaking of State and Subject

   This book is a theoretical consideration of the ways that 
   neoliberalism, a peculiar form of reason that configures all
   aspects of existence in economic terms, is quietly undoing basic
   elements of democracy. These elements include vocabularies, 
   principles of justice, political cultures, habits of citizenship,
   practices of rule, and above all, democratic imaginaries. 

   My argument is not merely that markets and money are corrupting
   or degrading democracy, that political institutions and outcomes
   are increasingly dominated by finance and corporate capital, or
   that democracy is being replaced by plutocracy -- rule by and for
   the rich. Rather, neoliberal reason, ubiquitous today in statecraft
   and the workplace, in jurisprudence, education, culture, and a vast
   range of quotidian activity, is converting the distinctly /political/
   character, meaning, and operation of democracy's constituent elements
   into /economic/ ones. Liberal democratic institutions, practices,
   and habits may not survive this conversion. Radical democratic dreams
   may not either.

   Thus. this book charts both a disturbing contemporary condition and
   the potential barrenness for future democratic projects contained in
   this troubled present. The institutions and principles aimed at 
   securing democracy, the cultures required to nourish it, the energies
   needed to animate it, and the citizens practicing, caring for, or 
   desiring it -- all these are challenged by neoliberalism's 
   "economization" of political life and other heretofore noneconomic
   spheres and activities.

   - Undoing the Demos: Neoliberalism's Stealth Revolution, Ch. 1
     /emphasis/ in the original.
     
[1]: https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/undoing-demos


That's Mr. American Empire to you droogie!

But going meta on pabloski's question, who decides which countries are dictatorships and which are bastions of liberty?


Then Russia is a democracy.

Russia was added recently, according to the twitter stream in question.


I'm puzzled because the power to tag someone as a "dictator" comes from some journos at TheEconomist (the company who builds the ranking which feeds the bot)...

Meanwhile the rest of the world does business as usual with what some prefer to name as "political leaders". That's why I posted the image of Zuck doing business.

Do you really think that Xi Jinping is a "dictator"?


I hope you understand that the final index scores come from an input of different factors that are considered crucial to a democracy.

The Economist Intelligent Unit does not randomly sit around and tag countries as authoritarian regimes not. They have a systematic method that brings about those scores. You can argue with the method but it would be wise not to dismiss the rankings because "some journos do it". That would be ad hominem fallacy.


People can say whatever they want; the "power" of the journalists at The Economist come from the number of people who agree with them and trust their judgement.

Anyway, regarding Xi: yes, he is behaving more and more like one, actually. There's a reason why people nicknamed him "Xitler".


Well. Maybe? I'd certainly consider their government "Authoritarian", but I think that about the US in certain ways too...


And you are right. All countries may be authoritarian on certain things while not being on others. Therefore, no country gets a perfect 10/10 score on the index.



From that article:

>"In practice, only one political party, the CPC, holds effective power at the national level. Its dominance is such that China is effectively a one-party state. Eight minor parties also participate in the political system. However, they have limited power on a national level and are almost completely subservient to the CPC"


Why don't they track the comings and going of non-dictators?

Why not expose wrong-doings of leaders whose people actually have an ability to right the wrong?


Tracking Putin's plane flying to Geneva to attend to Putin's tax evasion needs - that's just comically silly.


So now they have to charter a jet or use a fractional when they fly to gva, how will they cope?


Very cool !

Has anything actionable being done using this ?


This is very cool!


Why is this political stuff on HN? I thought this site was supposed to be apolitical.

/s


A small codebase like this could make a good example of async/await which is now available in Node 7 [1] with the --harmony_async_await flag. Since it is not even using Promises but simple callbacks instead, massive improvement is possible.

[1]: https://nodejs.org/download/test/v7.0.0-test201610107f7d1d38...




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