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Yep, the Model S is a large family sedan, that's why it's a bit absurd for it to win. My point was that a sports car from Porsche should be winning, and not by a little.

That video is comparing the Turbo S (the $185k version of the Taycan) to the $92k version of the Model S. The $140k version is significantly faster, let alone the 2021 Roadster.

The ID.3 seems to have a stated range of ~200 miles?



Performance is more than just drag racing. The Taycan out performs the Model S on track as well. It's just a better car and, yes, that costs money.

> The ID.3 seems to have a stated range of ~200 miles?

There are 3 usable battery sizes for 3 different range figures: 48kWh (205 miles WLTP), 58kWh (261 miles), and 77kWh (342 miles).


Alright, how much range do you get in an ID.3 that’s the same price as the base Model 3?

EDIT: Also, WLTP vs. EPA range isn't apples to apples, EPA is something like 10-20% more conservative, and that's what Tesla quotes, at least on their US site. I can't seem to find EPA range results for ID.3, maybe because it's not available in the US yet? And to be clear, I'm really happy that VW appears to be pushing into EVs in a bigger way than most of the big car companies. I wish they all would. But I think they're a ways from taking the limelight.


> Alright, how much range do you get in an ID.3 that’s the same price as the base Model 3?

340 miles.

> that's what Tesla quotes, at least on their US site

Tesla quotes WLTP ranges on their European sites.

> But I think they're a ways from taking the limelight.

Renault and VW BEVs outsell Tesla in Europe. The limelight has nothing to do with it. It's just business.


Ah nice, sounds like they're doing quite well, then! Looks like Model 3s are significantly more expensive in Europe than in the US (the base model in France is 51k Euros/61k USD vs $38k USD in the US, before tax rebates, which can knock off a significant chunk of it). Which is also part of why the quoted prices for the ID.3 seem so expensive to us in the US (49k Euros/59k USD for the 340 mile version in France). That's a lot to pay for either of those cars.


On track? Which one? Care to share the video evidence?

All I've seen are 1/4 mile drag races that show that yes, indeed, the Taycann has a 2 speed gearbox. There isn't really a big advantage outside of that.



I don't see any mention of the Taycann on that link...


I wouldn't worry about the Taycan. The Model S needs to race against something more in its league.

Here's a Model S being beaten by a Nissan Leaf:

https://insideevs.com/news/359903/video-nissan-leaf-beats-te...




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