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There's been a long observed tradition that every other version of Windows is trash. 3.1, 98, XP, 7, 10 were good^, 95, ME, Vista, 8 and now 11 are trash. This one is a bit of a fun one because the bits described here are almost sabotage level bad. You can deactivate that pretty easily so it's not a big deal; there's some other clunky ui interface notably in settings where you can still find 4 or 5 different generations of Windows ui. The two things that I reaaaally dont like is the right click menu that's now hidden behind a "more options" first ui someone figured was a good idea, the poorer performance where the antimalware or other bloatware sometimes decides to grab your CPU for itself, the lack of reliability - notably of the wsl, and most of all the sleep management.

What burns me is that my laptop used to wake up instantaneously in 10 when I opened the screen, even after a couple days of stowage. That was even one of the sales arguments, I think it was called "instant on" or something like that. Now if I wait more than 5 minutes it goes into Deep sleep. If I setup the sleep to longer than that the battery drains. I can't rollback to 10.

Even with 250gb free disk, I wanted to dual boot a Linux distro, can't resize the partition because "reasons", that's the first time I'm stuck on that.

So yeah, waiting for 12.

^hold your horses, even if you don't like the system, everything can still be relative



> There's been a long observed tradition that every other version of Windows is trash. 3.1, 98, XP, 7, 10 were good^, 95, ME, Vista, 8 and now 11 are trash.

What about Windows 2000?


Windows 2000 wasn't a consumer version of Windows, so gets left out.

edit: pity, because I think all-in-all it's one of the best versions of Windows I ever used. Very fast, no junk to get in the way, tremendously clear UI, very compatible with games (even weird ones developed for Win9x), etc.

I used it over Windows XP for as long as I could!


> Windows 2000 wasn't a consumer version of Windows

But it worked damn well as one.


Windows NT 4 was also better than 95 and 98. It ran everything but was NT based like 2000 and XP so very stable.


Doesn't fit the narrative so is omitted.


You consider 10 "good"? Maybe compared to 8, but not anything before. It's gotten consistently worse with each new version since ~XP. 8 was a massive nosedive, 8.1 a slight improvement over 8, and 10 roughly the same, and 11 another nosedive.


IDK, I consider Windows 7 a solid improvement over XP. XP, by the time Service Pack 3 came around, was good but showing its age.

As far as I'm concerned, they could have stopped at 7 with no real loss to the business.


10 LTSC is the best version of windows in history. Far better than XP or 7.


Yes. Been using it for over 2 years now, this is the version that I thought what a "Good" windows experience would be like. And this the exact version that Windows tries to hide from the world. Win 10 LTSC for the win.


Yeah I didn't mind 10, it was reasonably consistent and, at least in my experience, fine in terms of perfs


Compared to the mess that is Win11, and the previous agenda of Win8/Metro (locking down and dumbing down, replacing 'real windows' with a touch-centric mess), Win10 is wonderful.


Exactly. It's just a local optimum.


XP SP3 was gold for gaming.


For about 3 weeks, and then you had to reimage the system again ...


I personally don't think 11 is trash, to date it's been my most stable OS. Absolutely zero issues whatsoever, it just works. Both 7 and 10 had blue screens frequently (on the same machine).


To shrink your existing windows partition, first disable swap on the partition you want to shrink, otherwise windows may not shrink it enough for what you want. Turn it on again after you're done.


Windows 8 + OpenShell was great. Since you didn't have to deal with the stupid Metro crap, Windows 8 was pretty much just like Windows 7.


I just tested now and OpenShell (release 4.4.170 at this time) does work for Win 11, albeit needing some tweaks.

The start button image has to be replaced so that the replacement intercepts mouse clicks.

Still far better than the MS start menu fetching internet garbage instead of just launching an app as it's supposed to.

For those who know Classic Shell, Open-Shell is its successor.

Open-Shell: https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu




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