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A 9 year old random FPS game.

WTF happened to non-shooter games? I am so bored of these FPS variations.



This is like complaining all modern movies are superhero movies. It’s hard to think that unless you’re hardly looking at all, or have fairly narrow taste and aren’t counting most of the medium.


We're currently in a golden age of Indie games catering to hyper specific niches. Ignore all AAA games and you'll find absolute gems.


Some very fun indie games I've been playing this past year (lots of early access):

- Hexarchy / Rogue hex (Civ-like)

- The Last Caretaker

- Captain of Industry (factorio-like, was posted here on HN by dev awhile back)

- 9 kings

- Super Fantasy Kingdom

- Manor Lords

- Astronomics

- Heart of the Machine


Those games have 100x to 500x smaller budgets than the AAA-games. Yes, they often have cute ideas, but, like a blockbuster movie, 99 times out of 100 you need a solid budget to make a solid movie/game.


If you want AAA games, you are going to have a safe game. You get the same with movies - Bigger budgets cause safer behavior with less risk taking. You wind up with a pretty game, a somewhat safe story (that they think will sell) and gameplay they think is just good enough to keep you going.

It isn't that the other games are bad, though. It isn't like we are talking "handheld camcorder student-written movie" vs "polished hollywood blockbuster" but more.... Beautiful painting by a mostly unknown artist vs beautiful large, publically displayed and privatly funded artist. Big budgets get you more assistance and more/better tools and more space and more human help and more connections.

It is probably important to remember that a large portion of a blockbuster's budget is advertising. Advertising is often 50-100% of the production budget and I'm guessing AAA games have similar advertising budgets. I'm not sure how a large advertising budget gives you better products, though it might get you more folks if your game is online.

Of course, I'm guessing if you limit your search to FPS games, your experience might be a different.


Wikipedia has a list of the most expensive video games to develop, with a lower limit of $50mil. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_video_g...

The top of the list is Genshin Impact, although it'll probably be displaced by GTA6 soon - that one's estimated to come in at $1.5-2 million. There's multiple FPS games on there but there's some pretty expensive open-world games too.


I love that E.T. from 1982 stays on the list because of inflation. Adds some perspective.

> $1.5-2 million

You mean billion?


yeah, sorry :)

> 99 times out of 100 you need a solid budget to make a solid movie/game.

Sure, but 1 in 100 still gets you dozens of games a year now. There's plenty of genres where the top titles are nowhere near an AAA budget: Hades 2, Silksong, and Claire Obscura all being popular examples from this year, and Factorio being another well known example around here. Even simpler games like Balatro and Vampire Survivor are plenty of fun for some people.

The biggest studios have rarely been the ones producing the best work - budget gets you fancy cinematics and a beautifully rendered 3D world, but it doesn't make level design go any faster. It could plausibly buy better writing, but that requires all the executives to back off and trust the creatives.

And for what it's worth, the big studios are all happy raking in money on mindless remakes - it keeps working for them.


I would argue clair obscur is actually a shooter game seeing the variety of op builds

If 1% of indie games are solid, and all AAA game are solid, and there are 100 times more indie games than AAA games, then there would still be the same amount of solid indies as there are solid AAA games. As it is, I think for every good AAA game, there are somewhere between 50 and 500 great indie games.

Finding them is slightly harder, but absolutely worth it.

In any case, complaining about how many games there are out there that are not your thing is a waste of time. Much better to define what you like and look for recommendations from people who like similar games. Who care how many FPSs are released if you don't like FPSs? If you like RPGs, find RPG gamers and ask them what's good. Substitute for any genre; there is no genre out there that's not getting more releases than you could possibly play.


I've played the above games at least 100x more than I've played any AAA titles this year :)

Hopefully, AAA games era is coming to an end.

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I think he is saying where is the creativity in the AA+ space. Which still might be a lack of depth / breadth of search, or platform exclusive content. Not everyone can own all the consoles.


I play non FPS video games almost every night. There are so many great games available.


Yes. I tend to lean to MMOs, ARPGs, and survival/building games.

Play Hades 2!


Maybe check out game awards finalists


IMO the vidya gaem awards [0] are far superior to the game awards.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXMcq_LJ8ro


Maybe you can give a bit of context why you feel that way? Dropping a 2+ hour, <2000 views, 4chan video without context isn’t really the type of comment HN is looking for as far as I can tell



I checked them out. I guess I just miss a time when Falcon 3.0 and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stunt_Island sold really well.


Stunt Island was pretty good. However, there are more unusual games out there with reasonable budgets, like Death Stranding, The Talos Principle, The Outer Wilds, Portal and X4:Foundations. Even games involving shooting like Control or Alan Wake 2 are driven by unusual story telling.

We've come a long way in the past 30 years


Yeah, 1000 variations later, the latest Doom/Quake iteration looks great.


Summing up the entire FPS genre as Doom-like is unfair and discredits you more than anything else. Heck, even Doom and Quake are wildly different.

FPS haven't been under the spotlights for a while, these days it's mostly MOBAs.


I do like Dusk (and most New Blood releases) if that's what you mean

Ultrakill is better than every DOOM campaign combined.

Miss falcon 3.0? Go with Falcon BMS. For any genre of games there is a modern remake and community these days.

I literally discovered a completely free and open source Total Annihilation/Supreme Commander remake last month which is great for nostalgia’s sake.

https://www.beyondallreason.info/




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