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Ad hominem isn't that complex. You attack the arguer not the argument.

"Denninger ran an ISP in Chicago in the mid-90s and is an infamous curmudgeon. He sold the ISP in the late '90s and, as I understand it, retired to Florida to curmudge professionally." Author attack

"I have no idea why his thoughts on Bitcoin would be worth spreading on HN. He has no particular authority regarding economics" Author attack.

"I really dislike Bitcoin, but can think of much better devil's advocates than Denninger." Author attack

Notice the pattern? not a single rebuttal of the content provided in this article All comments directed at the author. That's an Ad hominem attack.



The point of my comment was the author.

This is another example of the ad hominem fallacy fallacy, wherein any assessment of a person making an argument is judged out-of-bounds because of the existence of the ad hominem fallacy. Here is an example of an actual ad hominem fallacy:

Arguer: "Bitcoin is doomed to fail because it lacks a central banking authority."

Opponent: "That's bullcrap because you're not a trained economist."

Here is an example of the ad hominem fallacy fallacy:

Arguer: "I looked up Karl Denninger and it says he's the founder of the Tea Party."

Opponent: "Also he's a professional curmudgeon who sold an ISP once and has no economics training."

Arguer: Ad hominem!

I am not too invested in this particular thread, but the ad hominem fallacy fallacy drives me up a wall a little bit.


It's not out of bounds tptacek. It just does nothing to advance the discussion around the points made. That's why Ad hominem arguments are not a valuable contribution. If the goal of the discussion is to support or rebut the merits of the argument being put forth. I'm really interested in whether or not these are valuable points. Whether the author is gay, outgoing and wears flamingo shirts or is a grumpy old man in a shack in the mountains isn't material.




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