I'm a huge Ubuntu fan, and use it every day on both my laptop and primary workstation. But I dunno how much more of this "we're pulling a piece of what is traditionally considered 'Linux' out and replacing it with our own shizz" I can take.
>But I dunno how much more of this "we're pulling a piece of what is traditionally considered 'Linux' out and replacing it with our own shizz" I can take.
All the people that want what is "traditionally considered Linux" why don't they go and use a traditional Linux?
They idea is that a lot of what "traditionally is considered Linux" (and UNIX) is decades old, designed before the current era of multicore/cheap SSDs/mobile devices/wireless connectivity/laptops/multi-TB filesystems at home/hi-dpi composite visuals/touch interaction/unicode everywhere/etc etc, and is not the be all end all of how an OS should be, nor the pinaccle of OS design...
That's really misunderstanding what this is. They're not removing apt & debs from Ubuntu. This is a snapshotted version of Ubuntu that uses images for upgrades.
Correct. We still use deb-src as our daily primitive, that's how we update packages and source and it's what we build. Snappy images are just rendered from those binaries similar to the way that ISO images are generated from them.
> "The Snappy project develops libsnappy, a download library based on libcurl. It will support metalinks and segmented downloading. The emphasis is on simplicity and lightness, while providing fast and robust download capabilities"
hi Mark,
given that the Docker project already uses snapshots are you planning to be compatible with them.
It would be ultra-cool if I use Ubuntu Core as my server, build a particular configuration that I'm happy with and in a single click is transformed into a Docker package that I can deploy to dozens of machines.
What exactly does "neat and transactional" imply? It would be really great if you could provide some technical details to support that statement. I think it would help the announcement, if there existed at least a few words of what's going on and one wouldn't have to go and mine the comments on HN. Sorry, I'm not going to go find and read the source code right now and later I will probably forget about this being a cool thing in the first place, as I wasn't told what exactly is cool about it. Some seem to suggest above that there is a relation/inspiration to Nix, but that's not backed in any way either. Also, once it's a clear response to CoreOS, a detailed comparison would help a lot.
When you are talking about what's "traditionally called Linux", ca. which years version of "traditionally called Linux", and which distribution, are you talking about?
When I started using Linux, there was no package management, glibc was nowhere to be found, there was no "/proc", and so on.
Linux has changed drastically on a semi-yearly basis for well over 20 years, and many of the distributions have changed in vastly different ways.
Packaging systems being one of the things that have diverged the most widely over the years.