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Hungarian Railways' Live Countrywide Map (mav-start.hu)
83 points by popcalc on Jan 2, 2024 | hide | past | favorite | 51 comments


Just to add to the list, we have this in Norway: https://togkart.banenor.no/

Train movements between stations are simulated based on the expected speed between two points and not based on GPS tracks, sadly, so it's not very useful if you want to check whether your train is stuck (say, due to traffic or signal failures). Notice that the circles representing trains occasionally move at unnaturally high speeds -- this presumably happens when a train enters a station and its location is corrected. It would certainly be useful to be able to see the actual real-time location of a train and not just the approximate location (and I'd assume that at least some of the maps from other countries are indeed based on real-time GPS data!) -- this exists for buses in Oslo (only available in the public transport company's app, unfortunately) and it's nice to know for sure whether you'll have to run to catch your bus or not.

(Several years ago when looking into the possibility of creating a real-time train map, I read that certain train operators and/or the national government considers publishing the exact locations of trains to be a security risk, so unless opinions on this have changed I don't have high hopes that we're getting it soon.)


For the UK, quite a good one, can see trains moving from zoomed out https://www.map.signalbox.io/


For comparison, I find it quite funny the UK version colours ones red which are 10 minutes late. In the Hungarian one, red means 50min+ late.


what's the late cut-off in Japan, 2 minutes?


Those trains seem to be moving waaay too fast...


Love the sharing feature, I wish this was a standard feature used by public transportation apps.


Would love to see something similar for Switzerland. This page (referred to in another thread): https://maps.vasile.ch/transit-sbb/ is NOT a live map, just an animation based on timetable data.

There were a couple of instances last summer where SBB went belly up (remember that day when a locomotive caught fire while standing still at Altstetten station?), and total chaos ensued. It'd be nice to see which trains are late (in realtime) and which routes to take to avoid problem spots. Around Zurich you usually have at least 2-3 options between points A and B, so people could just be rerouted to the next best route.


While it would be nice to have on a map, live rerouting is already handled on the sbb/google maps/citymapper/etc apps (afaik they all have realtime data).


Here is the Finnish one

https://www.vr.fi/en/live-train-tracker-map

I couldn’t find any info if it is based gps data or time tables but I have checked and seen my train that was late being stopped where it in reality was (waiting for another train that was late to pass on a 1 track line)


Dutch live railway map: https://spoorkaart.mwnn.nl/

Transport tycoon in the Netherlands is played by 4 or 5 competitors. You can see make out their coloring and general area of operation on this map too.

Fun fact: In the Netherlands you have to make sure you 'checkin' to the right transportation company, some stations have 3 checkin posts. Very annoying and embarrassing and error prone.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:OVC-palen_in_station...


> Fun fact: In the Netherlands you have to make sure you 'checkin' to the right transportation company

In Italy there are competing fast trains on the same track, all with a red color. With people on the station selling tickets to only one of them. ... So I asked them for the first train from Vincenza to Milan at 13:30... That is 14:44...I bought the 14:44 ticket from "Italo". Then found out there was a "Trenitalia" at 14:04! ... Sorry mister.. this was OUR first train..not THE first train.


I went to the main site of that one, looks like the guy does woodworking for a living or hobby :D


In the Netherlands there is also this site https://treinposities.nl/ with positions, train history and much more


The icons being tiny pictures of the actual trains is cute, but makes the map quite confusing to look at!

Edit: I just noticed that the marker style changes if I choose something other than "Equipment" from the map style dropdown, selecting "driving/stationary" certainly makes it a lot more readable.


Real cool, thanks for the link! Wish we had something similar for our national railway network here in neighboring Romania.

And one good thing that will be brought by us (Romania) finally getting into Schengen this year (God- and Austria-permit) would be that the rail connections between Romania and Hungary would become much more common, especially the regional ones. I can see a Salonta - Békéscsaba ride on this map that I had no idea about, hopefully we'll get much more of those into the future.


The aim from March is for air and maritime travel to be part of Schengen, terrestrial not yet unfortunately.


Here's a similar site for Bulgaria: https://radar.bdz.bg/en


For Hungary, there is another which shows freight trains and single locomotives, too: https://iemig.mav-trakcio.hu/


Seeing as everyone is posting other countries' live railway maps, here is Denmark's: https://www.rejseplanen.dk/bin/help.exe/mn?L=vs_livemap&tpl=...


The "help.exe" in the path is concerning.


The normal web app[0] for finding journeys calls a file called "iphone.exe".[1]

[0] https://rejseplanen.dk/webapp/ [1] e.g. https://rejseplanen.dk/bin/iphone.exe?rnd=1704195748374


The bin/ is not helping. It's a sixth sense as a bug bounty hunter.


Windows IIS. Nothing out of the ordinary there. eBay, for a long time, ran all their endpoints through a service called `eBayISAPI.dll`.


Here is the rather sad one for the US.

https://www.amtrak.com/track-your-train.html


It's incredible that even when you zoom both countries to be the same size, the Hungarian map is still way more dense.


French one.

Available in your browser.

https://carto.graou.info


The design is beautiful. It's like an old paper map came to life.


Checkout IGN's maps, if you like paper maps. They're shifting to vector, you can try it here.

https://futur.eco/voyage?style=ign#6.98/47.823/-0.815

No trains though.


For Austria you can see all trains, buses, subway and some other stuff here: https://anachb.vor.at/ (Kartenoptionen -> Livemap -> Alle einblenden)


I got curious if there is one for Poland; apparently, there is: https://portalpasazera.pl/en/MapaOL


I think the big feature here is that the biggest visual factor is the punctuality. Funny seeing this posted here as Hun railways are famous for delays/antiquated tech/bad management, even though it seems rather fine currently.

When viewing the German version, almost all regional trains have delays, a lot 20-30 minutes even. Having the huge swarm of trains all as red dots overlaid on the country map would be an easy, damning visual representation of the situation.


As everyone is posting, a similar one exists for Belgium: https://trainmap.belgiantrain.be/

(It is not 100% live, "The train positions are calculated based on timetables, real time info and prognoses.")

Also fun are international trains, which are shown, but there is no map outside of Belgium.


I'd love a list of other services like this - or even more ambitiously executed than this - globally. I'd bet there are some really interesting uses of open transport data.



That is a good place to start, thanks!


Czech Railway network live map is at https://grapp.spravazeleznic.cz/


Berlin and Brandenburg in Germany: https://www.vbb.de/fahrinfo/ (need to enable it in the top right corner). Includes ICE, regional, suburban trains, subway, trams, buses and ferries.


This is nicely done. Is there something like this for all of Germany (except https://zugfinder.net)

Btw, there's also this one for Munich: https://s-bahn-muenchen-live.de


As a digital nomad living in Europe I absolutely love this stuff.

Unfortunately my own home country of Sweden has a 3rd party unofficial version: https://1409.se/trains/Rst


Has anyone tried consolidating all these national trackers into a big European one?


Have a look at https://travic.app

It visualizes GTFS data for many countries, also outside of Europe. Next to trains, it shows buses, metro's, trams, etc.

For interesting technical details (e.g. on interpolation, updates, scaling, etc) you can find the paper at http://ad-publications.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/theses/Mas...



Finnish railway company VR also has a nice live tracker https://www.vr.fi/en/live-train-tracker-map


There's also https://junatkartalla.com/ which includes cargo trains.


This has got to be the nicest one I've seen in the thread so far!


It helps that in areas where there's a high concentration of trains on the go they just put a single pin that says "N trains" - the ones that have one pin for every train are a bit busy and can be sluggish


Russian trains is here: https://rasp.yandex.ru/map/trains/


Similar one for Slovakia: https://meskanievlakov.info/mapa/


There is also the official version by the infrastructure maintainer: https://mapa.zsr.sk/index.aspx


I hate that there's no public service for this stuff in Italy.


I'd love to see one of those for all of the EU.




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